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		<title>By: chris hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>david oddsson loves a good party especially the builderburg ones</description>
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		<title>By: Ericsson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ericsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you say about our President is plain nasty.  The President who saved us from the abuse and extortion of the EU, the governments of the Netherlands and the UK and our own abusive and un-democratic government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you say about our President is plain nasty.  The President who saved us from the abuse and extortion of the EU, the governments of the Netherlands and the UK and our own abusive and un-democratic government.</p>
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		<title>By: The Chosan</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Chosan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 23:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good list of culprits.
Here is a bit more on Magnús Árni and Indefence.
http://icelandtalks.net/?p=819 
He was according to this site, selling for SchneiderFX, and doing it all through backchannels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good list of culprits.<br />
Here is a bit more on Magnús Árni and Indefence.<br />
<a href="http://icelandtalks.net/?p=819" rel="nofollow">http://icelandtalks.net/?p=819</a><br />
He was according to this site, selling for SchneiderFX, and doing it all through backchannels.</p>
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		<title>By: Iris Erlingsdottir: Iceland&#8217;s Prez Is No Hero &#124; Loans in</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iris Erlingsdottir: Iceland&#8217;s Prez Is No Hero &#124; Loans in</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it any coincidence that the petition presented to Ólafur Ragnar asking him to veto was the work of Magnús Árni Skúlason, a former Progressive Party board member who was forced to resign from the Central Bank after it [...]</description>
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<p>[...] it any coincidence that the petition presented to Ólafur Ragnar asking him to veto was the work of Magnús Árni Skúlason, a former Progressive Party board member who was forced to resign from the Central Bank after it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Iris Erlingsdottir: Iceland&#8217;s Prez Is No Hero &#124; News from: The Huffington Post - Breaking News and Opinion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iris Erlingsdottir: Iceland&#8217;s Prez Is No Hero &#124; News from: The Huffington Post - Breaking News and Opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 09:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it any coincidence that the petition presented to Ólafur Ragnar asking him to veto was the work of Magnús Árni Skúlason, a former Progressive Party board member who was forced to resign from the Central Bank after it [...]</description>
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<p>[...] it any coincidence that the petition presented to Ólafur Ragnar asking him to veto was the work of Magnús Árni Skúlason, a former Progressive Party board member who was forced to resign from the Central Bank after it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Iris Erlingsdottir: Iceland&#8217;s Prez Is No Hero &#124; News Feeds Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iris Erlingsdottir: Iceland&#8217;s Prez Is No Hero &#124; News Feeds Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 09:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it any coincidence that the petition presented to Ólafur Ragnar asking him to veto was the work of Magnús Árni Skúlason, a former Progressive Party board member who was forced to resign from the Central Bank after it [...]</description>
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<p>[...] it any coincidence that the petition presented to Ólafur Ragnar asking him to veto was the work of Magnús Árni Skúlason, a former Progressive Party board member who was forced to resign from the Central Bank after it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The IceSave Memorial: How We Got To Where We Are &#124; iceland today</title>
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		<dc:creator>The IceSave Memorial: How We Got To Where We Are &#124; iceland today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 21:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] See the original post here: The IceSave Memorial: How We Got To Where We Are [...]</description>
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<p>[...] See the original post here: The IceSave Memorial: How We Got To Where We Are [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blubber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blubber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really good summary.</description>
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		<title>By: torsten</title>
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		<dc:creator>torsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Does heard mentality occur more easily in small
&gt; nations? Might be?

Mancur Olson kind of &quot;predicts&quot; in his book &quot;The rise and decline of nations&quot; that in democratic countries the big lobbies will sooner or later manage to grab the power. 
Their policies will tend to be protectionist and anti-technology, and will therefore hurt economic growth. The benefits of the lobby-policies go to the members of the lobbies, the costs go to the population. This process will sooner or later lead to a demise of the nation. Just happened in Iceland, hn?

According to Olson public resistance against such lobbies is rather unlikely and without succes, since the public doesn&#039;t manage to organise resistance against such lobbies.


I don&#039;t know, my feeling is, that the big lobbies grasp for the power in Germany and EU since a long time now and still want more. I don&#039;t actually understand that we are under such stable circumstances here yet. Maybe Iceland-bashing helps our stability?

I think in smaller nations as in Iceland it should be rather easy to get unsocial behaviour as in the case of the heroes above under control. Everybody knows each other, if someone does bad things he could be sanctioned very easily, hence the temptation to do wrong to others should be very small and so on. I am very surprised actually that the guys above dared to piss on all the Icelanders around them. And even more surprised that they are still alive and doing well. Speaks for the humanist education of the Icelanders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Does heard mentality occur more easily in small<br />
&gt; nations? Might be?</p>
<p>Mancur Olson kind of &#8220;predicts&#8221; in his book &#8220;The rise and decline of nations&#8221; that in democratic countries the big lobbies will sooner or later manage to grab the power.<br />
Their policies will tend to be protectionist and anti-technology, and will therefore hurt economic growth. The benefits of the lobby-policies go to the members of the lobbies, the costs go to the population. This process will sooner or later lead to a demise of the nation. Just happened in Iceland, hn?</p>
<p>According to Olson public resistance against such lobbies is rather unlikely and without succes, since the public doesn&#8217;t manage to organise resistance against such lobbies.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, my feeling is, that the big lobbies grasp for the power in Germany and EU since a long time now and still want more. I don&#8217;t actually understand that we are under such stable circumstances here yet. Maybe Iceland-bashing helps our stability?</p>
<p>I think in smaller nations as in Iceland it should be rather easy to get unsocial behaviour as in the case of the heroes above under control. Everybody knows each other, if someone does bad things he could be sanctioned very easily, hence the temptation to do wrong to others should be very small and so on. I am very surprised actually that the guys above dared to piss on all the Icelanders around them. And even more surprised that they are still alive and doing well. Speaks for the humanist education of the Icelanders.</p>
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		<title>By: Dadi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 11:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the good comment Torsten, 

my cousin and I were talking yesterday about the larger implications of Iceland ... i.e. how the world financial system is run. 

if we are going to have free flows of money in our countries, we probably also need tighter regulations and fewer currencies

Iceland&#039;s plight is due to lack of regulation and oversight because of an over-reliance on an ideology which preached lax monitoring, absence of checks and balances due to lack of constitutional reform, and predators such as hedge funds lurking in the shelter of strong economies attacking the weak currency. 

maybe a new Bretton Woods is needed? What is the UK going to do if Barclay&#039;s implodes? 

The US has a stronger constitution and better checks and balances built into its system, but still they are reeling today from a position of  undisputed world heavyweight champions ten years ago. Their plight might just be beginning  ... what are they going to do for example if the OPEC and China move away from the Dollar in oil trade?

so yes, there are many &quot;black swans&quot; out there in my opinion, in the US and the UK especially... and I will maintain my opinion that there is a need for a type of &quot;enlightenment&quot; in Iceland and those countries where I am most familiar with... 

Personally I abhor the idea of being ideologically married to a political party, but Icelanders are divided along those lines for better or worse. Does heard mentality occur more easily in small nations? Might be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the good comment Torsten, </p>
<p>my cousin and I were talking yesterday about the larger implications of Iceland &#8230; i.e. how the world financial system is run. </p>
<p>if we are going to have free flows of money in our countries, we probably also need tighter regulations and fewer currencies</p>
<p>Iceland&#8217;s plight is due to lack of regulation and oversight because of an over-reliance on an ideology which preached lax monitoring, absence of checks and balances due to lack of constitutional reform, and predators such as hedge funds lurking in the shelter of strong economies attacking the weak currency. </p>
<p>maybe a new Bretton Woods is needed? What is the UK going to do if Barclay&#8217;s implodes? </p>
<p>The US has a stronger constitution and better checks and balances built into its system, but still they are reeling today from a position of  undisputed world heavyweight champions ten years ago. Their plight might just be beginning  &#8230; what are they going to do for example if the OPEC and China move away from the Dollar in oil trade?</p>
<p>so yes, there are many &#8220;black swans&#8221; out there in my opinion, in the US and the UK especially&#8230; and I will maintain my opinion that there is a need for a type of &#8220;enlightenment&#8221; in Iceland and those countries where I am most familiar with&#8230; </p>
<p>Personally I abhor the idea of being ideologically married to a political party, but Icelanders are divided along those lines for better or worse. Does heard mentality occur more easily in small nations? Might be?</p>
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